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5th Gen RNG Guide
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5th Gen RNG Guide
Welcome.

The top sections are a 5th Gen Standard Abuse (Non C-Gear Abuse) including Wondercards/Events, Breeding, and Plain old captures.

The last section(coming soon) is an Entralink (Highlink) Abuse guide.


With all the people wanting to learn RNG and not many knowing how to I thought I'd finally get around to making a guide.



Written by Stormfront, edited by Stormfront.
RNG learned and transformed into plain words by Stormfront.

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Standard Abuse Prerequisites

Things You can NOT Have.
A Action Replay DSI (regular DS is fine)

Things You'll Need.
A DS Lite/Orignal
The Latest Version of RNG Reporter(Windows)/PPRNG(Mac), Found here
A Sweet Scenter (Captures Only)
A Way of Checking IVs Wthout Saving
A Flame Body/Magma Armor Pokemon(Optional, Breeding Only)
A False Swiper(Optional, Captures Only)
A Chatot(Must Have a Custom Chatter recorded, Optional for captures, but almost completely Necessary. Needed for Breeding)
A large supply of music to listen to.
$20
(Ok so you don't need $20)

To find you SID for shinies, upload any junk poke you caught to Here and it will tell you your SID.

Until I have time to write changes for DSI/3DS RNG info look here.


Finding Your Parameters

First Get a Team of 5 or less together, Make Sure you Have a Sweet Scenter. Oddish(White Forest) and Foongus/Amoonguss(Route 10) work well.

Then go and Save in a Place where you can sweet scent.
Lostlorn Forest works well.

Open up RNG Reporter.
Click Find DS Parameters.

Now turn on some music while we proceed.

Enter Your DS Mac Address Game Version.

Click Options
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Then Click System Info
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Select a Time and Date.(Make sure the date doesn't change in the process)
The Other stuff will automaticly fill in.

Set your Game to the date then the time. Hard Reset your system.
Get to the Main DS Screen. Once It gets to the second you set press a to enter the game.

While going through the White Screen do NOT push any buttons unless you have Keypresses on.

DO NOT Turn on the C-Gear when you enter the game. Immidietly upon entering the game open the menu and use Sweet Scent and catch the pokemon then, check the IVs without saving.(IV Calculators work well)

Put the IV Range into RNG Reporter and click Generate.

Pay Attention to the Timer0 and Actual Second.

If your target second was 25 and your actual second is 26 you need to hit every seed one second before the specified.

After reapeating the process several times, and find the most common one, select use results in Time Finder.

You only need to do this once per cartridge. For every New DS/Game Combination you will need to do this over again.


RNGing Wild Pokes/Legendaries/Roamers.

First select the Capture Tab.

Continue Playing Music

Select Method 5 Standard Seed.

Enter your ID/SID(Isn't required if you don't want shiny), Desired IVs(I recommend 30+/30+/30+/x/30+/30+ or 30+/x/30+/30+/30+/30+, depending), Synch Nature (if any), A year and month, Shiny (if wanted, although I don't recommend doing this first time).

Set the Min/Max advancements to 10 and I'd recommend about 50-100.

Click Generate and wait for RNG Reporter to find a seed.

NOTE: Earlier versions of RNG Reporter don't show the synch nature in the results on Captures.

Once you find one you want right click and select copy full seed.

Go to RNG Reporters Main Screen Select Method 5 PIDRNG.
Paste the full seed in and click Calculate Initial PIDRNG Frame then generate.

Fly to the location of your RNG Target and save either in the cave, on the water, in the grass, or in front of the pokemon respectively.

Now set your DS to your target time/date and hit your seed.

Again, do NOT touch any buttons while passing through the White Screen.

Upon entering the game immidietly open the menu and use sweet scent or talk to the stationary pokemon.

Now go to the judge in the Battle Subway (assuming you've beaten the E4, if not try an IV calculator) to comfirm the IVs.

Once you hit your seed compare the captured pokes details with the ones on the list.

Then repeat the process, but advance the frame by one by either saving or Entering the sumary screen of a Custom Chatter Recorded Chatot.

Then catch the pokemon and compare it to the list.

Search for the two you've caught on the list in a row, if you find more then one set in a list keep reapeating the process but advancing one more each time until you've found your starting frame.

Once you've found that frame, look for a frame that has the results you're looking for and advance the frame from your starting frame until you reach your desired target.

If you did this properly you should have your desired results. If not, keep trying, you'll get it eventually.


RNGing Eggs

First Open the 5th Gen Time Finder

Then Egg Tab.

Then click Ditto Parent and International Parents. (if applicable)

Crank Up the Music.

Enter your ID/SID. If you don't want shininess uncheck the shiny only button(9.90 and later only).

Set a year and Month(s).

Set the Min/Max Advancements to 5 and 65 respectfully.

Enter the parents IVs in the respective slots.

If going for a DW Ability check the box respectfully.

Set your desired IVs.

Set an Everstone Nature(if used).

Click Generate.

From the results generated find a seed you'd like to use or keep searching till you find one you like.

Now place the parents in the Day Care. (You can do this while it searches for a seed)

Ride your bike until the old guy yells at you.

Then Yell back at him saying "WHAT!? You Old Geezer!".

Walk Up to him and save in front of him.

Now hit your seed.

Once again unless you are using Keypresses don't hit any buttons while passing the white screen.

On the Main RNG Reporter Screen, select Method 5 Standard Seed, Gift Pokemon, then Paste the Seed, Now look at the IVs provided by Frame #8 and write them down.
Those are the IVs it would recieve without the inheritence.

Now Set it to BW Breeding/BW (Intenational), Click Find Intial PIDRNG Frame.

Click Generate(Obviously)

Successfully hit your seed

Pick up the Egg before any Randomly moving NPCs can move.

Hatch the Egg and compare the Results with those generated.

Use the judge to check which IVs are flawless.

Once you find your intial starting frame you'll need to advance until you reach your Target.

Hit your seed again.

Once the Season comes up start spamming X to open the menu as soon as possible to advance the frame and advance, using the chatot method of advancement(I'll put up a youtube video on this later.), until you reach your shiny.

Hatch to verify it, if you did it right you should have what you wanted.

If not Keep trying.



RNGing Wondercards

The only things that change are how you recieve the poke and how you search for the seed.

Save in front of the delivery man in a pokemon center with no randomly moving NPCs(E4 works well). After having lots of RNG experience you can try your hand at doing it where there are NPCs, but you have to take into account how much the NPC advances the frame. (It's possible, I've done it)

In the Capture Tab select Wondercards(5th gen)

and set the minimum frame to 50+ and the maximum to something above 50.

then search for your seed like normal, and hit it. Find where you hit by generating on the main RNG reporter like normal then advance the frame with Chatot/saving like normal.



Extralink RNG

For those of you who are familiar with 4G RNG or C-Gear Abuse, this will look very similar to you.



Prerequisites:

Lastest version of RNG Reporter/PPRNG, Found here

ToastPlusOne's Eon Timer, Here
Eon Timer is specifically mentioned for certain capabilities it contains.

Mac users will have to use Zomgtimer, here

incomplete obviously.



This entire guide is a copyright of Stormfront and may not be used without permission anywhere else. This includes (but is not limited to) basing a RNG guide by you off of my guide.

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Jul 17, 2011    8:45 PM
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RE: 5th Gen RNG Guide(In Progress)
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RE: 5th Gen RNG Guide(In Progress)
You should probably put in that you Need RNG reporter and to put that in
I love it very simplified unlike the other ones where i think wth :)

You also might want to say not to push buttons on the white screen when you start the game unless you have held buttons on

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where can i get one

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RE: 5th Gen RNG Guide(In Progress)
protip: npcs don't matter for finding your initial seed. pick a sweet scent-able area: save, reset at a given time, sweet scent, find ivs.

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Edited: Jul 20, 2011   /   Jul 19, 2011    11:41 PM
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RE: 5th Gen RNG Guide
Majorly Updated.

Added a Breeding Guide.

Made changes to the Rest of it aswell.

Hope to learn Extralink soon and get a Guide up on that.

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(Jul 17, 2011 8:35 PM)Stormfront wrote:

Thing You can NOT Have.
A Flashcart

mmm..
one can RNG in DS-mode using a flashcart.



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(Jul 20, 2011 12:00 AM)arcee wrote:

(Jul 17, 2011 8:35 PM)Stormfront wrote:

Thing You can NOT Have.
A Flashcart

mmm..
one can RNG in DS-mode using a flashcart.

I'm almost Certain you CAN'T for Standard Abuse.

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(Jul 20, 2011 12:10 AM)Stormfront wrote:

(Jul 20, 2011 12:00 AM)arcee wrote:

(Jul 17, 2011 8:35 PM)Stormfront wrote:

Thing You can NOT Have.
A Flashcart

mmm..
one can RNG in DS-mode using a flashcart.

I'm almost Certain you CAN'T for Standard Abuse.

no... you can.

e: you can also get away with an ards, but not an ardsi.

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Stormfront wrote: You only need to do this once per game. For every restart, New game, or new DS you will need to do this over again.

just noticed something..
no, you only need to do this per new DS.



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Storm you can RNG with a flashcart or a Action Replay DS (not AR DSi) in your DSi/DSXL since they make your game run in DS mode.
Also people can't advance the frame and pick up the egg right away, they have to check how much their frame will advance since it will always do (if it doesn't advances for you I guess you must be pretty fast! Grin)
Also some people may not need to set it to "BW Breeding(Intenational)" since they may get their own parents from their own fame.
Also extralink RNG is about hitting seeds (just like Hg/SS or legends in D/P/Pt) so C-Gear will be used in here which is really annoying. x(
Lasty good luck with this cool guide. ^^

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(Jul 21, 2011 8:52 PM)bluemew#1 wrote:

Storm you can RNG with a flashcart or a Action Replay DS (not AR DSi) in your DSi/DSXL since they make your game run in DS mode.
Also people can't advance the frame and pick up the egg right away, they have to check how much their frame will advance since it will always do (if it doesn't advances for you I guess you must be pretty fast! Grin)
Also some people may not need to set it to "BW Breeding(Intenational)" since they may get their own parents from their own fame.
Also extralink RNG is about hitting seeds (just like Hg/SS or legends in D/P/Pt) so C-Gear will be used in here which is really annoying. x(
Lasty good luck with this cool guide. ^^

the ardsi runs in ds mode too. it's very inconsistent, though, which is why it isn't usable.

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Will an AR with and EV/IV checking code suffice for checking? Or will it interfere with the process?


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Original poster, your guide is very simplified. Thanks for posting. I definitely don't have the steam to give 5th gen RNG a try yet though. I could just wait for Bluemew#1 to rescue me again too. hahah Jk. When I finally give it a try, Ill post up my results and/or advice. Once again, I am impressed with the easy to read guide.

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(Jul 23, 2011 10:16 PM)SilverCinccino wrote:

Will an AR with and EV/IV checking code suffice for checking? Or will it interfere with the process?

Should be fine.



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Okay I am now tring to find the current parameters for my DS. I figured out how to generate results but dont know what to do next can you clarify.


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A new update is posted.

On Wondercard RNG.

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standard rng is now possible on the dsi/xl/3ds. check the link in my sig.

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(Nov 26, 2011 12:00 PM)Bond697 wrote:

standard rng is now possible on the dsi/xl/3ds. check the link in my sig.

Thanks, added some info on it.

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When i enter my ivs it says invalid help?

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