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Dec 14, 2008    12:14 PM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Since I believe we have enough people, what rules should there be?


Best 2 out of 3 or just 1 battle?
SkarmBliss Clause?

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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
i say best 2 out of 3 XD
i say yes to skarmbliss clause

I'm always up for a battle.



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Dec 14, 2008    1:58 PM
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Post: #23
RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Standard Rules as in

Species Clause
Legit Clause
Item Clause?


I feel I am missing some...

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Dec 14, 2008    2:00 PM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
wat about

sleep clause
evasion clause
ohko clause

like the serebii standard rules

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Dec 14, 2008    2:15 PM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Lv 100 Single, 6 vs 6
Legit/Legal Clause
Sleep Clause
Species Clause
OHKO Clause
Freeze Clause
Evasion Clause


I think that set of rules would be good

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Dec 15, 2008    2:16 AM
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Post: #26
RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
IMO Skarm Bliss isn't that deadly anymore.

Skarmory is not even that great anymore, I rarely use it anymore. Forretress or even Cresselia (Which has far better defensive stats even if its a support pokemon and not a wall) I find are better.

IMO Cress / Bliss is a much deadlier combo only beaten by Tyranitar (Thats off the top of my head...)


(Dec 14, 2008 2:15 PM)Magix wrote:

Lv 100 Single, 6 vs 6
Legit/Legal Clause
Sleep Clause
Species Clause
OHKO Clause
Freeze Clause
Evasion Clause


I think that set of rules would be good

Are fine except Legit Hacks should be allowed.


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Dec 15, 2008    2:41 AM
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Post: #27
RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Legit Hacks...

What an Oxymoron.


Here's a few problems I have with "Legit Hacks"

1) You can have perfect 31 ivs in every stat. That gives an unfair advantage to all who legitimately got/trained their pokemon.
2) Someone will have to know/figure out max stats to make sure its not trained in 3 or more stats, doesn't have more than 31 ivs in each stat, ect...
3) Overall it demeans the time and effort that many of us took to breed/train/trade the pokemon we needed.

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Dec 15, 2008    2:52 AM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
i agree with magix on this. it feels so cheap.

Aren't we all just a little insane?
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
But most people don't have the time to EV Train 6 pokemon, to get them egg moves, and + Natures and Good IVs.

It takes too long, at least 5 hours per pokemon.

Thats 30 hours!

Why should I waste at a minimum 30 hours if I can do it in 20 minutes?

All that happens with legit hacks is that the PC breeds / trains for you.


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Dec 15, 2008    4:08 AM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Yeah but It breeds it with better ivs than most of us can get.


Think of it as a job.
(Your a stock person) There's a promotion you or another person can get. You break your back to do the best job you can and it takes you an half an hour. Now you have your job done and it looks good. The other guy takes 5 minutes does an overall bad job but hides it and makes it look just as good maybe a bit better. They get the job because it took them quicker.
Is it fair? Nope. You deserve to be rewarded for your time.

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Dec 15, 2008    12:44 PM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
it doesnt take 5 hours to breed and ev train and i breed atleast 2 31 on each.

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Dec 15, 2008    2:27 PM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Same here. I just bred my Spheal and got 31/27/31/31/29/20 with a good nature and Ice body. With ev training (PKRS + Power item + good training spot) and lv up to 50 (with lucky egg) it took 2 1/2 - 3 hours to finish. Many people are on this site for more than that a day.

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Dec 15, 2008    2:55 PM
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(Dec 15, 2008 2:27 PM)Magix wrote:

Same here. I just bred my Spheal and got 31/27/31/31/29/20 with a good nature and Ice body. With ev training (PKRS + Power item + good training spot) and lv up to 50 (with lucky egg) it took 2 1/2 - 3 hours to finish. Many people are on this site for more than that a day.

Aye but to get a spheal in the first place takes perhaps an hour minimum to find someone to give you one.

You then have to get one with good IV's, without having a good parent for most. Then you have to get a ditto / another pokemon with good IVs. (A couple of hours, 3 minimum)

Then you have to get a pokemon with the egg moves required, keep breeding till you get good IVs and a good nature. (At least 3 hours)

Then EV Training it. (Took me 2 hours to do a individual pokemon when I used to have more reliable wifi)

Then you have to level it up to learn level up moves (2 / 3 / 4 hours).

All that happens with legit hacks is that you feel more satisfaction as you're not going, wow, I could have made this team in Shoddy in 10 minutes and not the 30+ hours it took.


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Dec 15, 2008    2:59 PM
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Post: #34
RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
honestly, I agree with fish.
I think I've ev trained like 4 pokemon. That's when I had no life.... ><"
it's sooooo boring.
but, eh, I guess I'll join/would join. I can just throw together some pokermanz I already have traded for and make it a team. xD

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Dec 15, 2008    4:09 PM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
It doesn't take too long to find the pokemon and dittos only need to be found once.
You breed for decent parents (1 hour). You use those to make a good baby (1 hour).

If ev training and leveling up to 50 takes you more than an hour and a half then your doing something wrong. It only needs to be over 50 if the moves are learned at that level.



Should be a 3 1/2 Hour Job tops.


You have a big prob with training/lving up to 50, pm me I may be able to help (I will clone the pokemon after though).

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Dec 15, 2008    4:21 PM
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Post: #36
RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
My question is what are the ivs of the legit hacks are going to be. I find 31/31/31/31/31/31 cheap and with 70 base hidden power. Also there is the legit egg move combinations...

Also someone could say they are using legit hacks and they have 252 in each stat and when we find this out they say they screwed up hacking...

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Dec 16, 2008    2:27 AM
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Post: #37
RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
(Dec 15, 2008 4:21 PM)Macle wrote:

My question is what are the ivs of the legit hacks are going to be. I find 31/31/31/31/31/31 cheap and with 70 base hidden power. Also there is the legit egg move combinations...

Also someone could say they are using legit hacks and they have 252 in each stat and when we find this out they say they screwed up hacking...

Quite simple then, we get someone who's not in the tournament who knows how to use an IV Calculator / Look at stat pages to check any legit hacks used.

31/31/31/31/31/31 can be obtained legitly, the only thing hacking it to do that is that it saves you hours.


(Dec 15, 2008 4:09 PM)Magix wrote:

It doesn't take too long to find the pokemon and dittos only need to be found once.
You breed for decent parents (1 hour). You use those to make a good baby (1 hour).

If ev training and leveling up to 50 takes you more than an hour and a half then your doing something wrong. It only needs to be over 50 if the moves are learned at that level.



Should be a 3 1/2 Hour Job tops.


You have a big prob with training/lving up to 50, pm me I may be able to help (I will clone the pokemon after though).

You missed out Egg moves and Nature breeding.

Anyway even if it is 3 and a half hours.

3.5*6 = 21 Hours.

Not many people can spare 21 Hours....


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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Most of the people complaining they want legit hacks allowed *cough* Fish *cough* Spend more than 21 hours on this site a week. It shouldn't be much of a problem and if it takes more than 2 hours to ev train for anyone let me know and I'll help you out. I don't feel like breeding though.
That has nothing to do with the time though, I'm just too lazy to do it, even for myself.

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Dec 16, 2008    9:59 AM
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(Dec 16, 2008 9:55 AM)Magix wrote:

Most of the people complaining the want legit hacks allowed *cough* Fish *cough* Spend more than 21 hours on this site a week. It shouldn't be much of a problem and if it takes more than 2 hours to ev train for anyone let me know and I'll help you out. I don't feel like breeding though.
That has nothing to do with the time though, I'm just too lazy to even for myself.

I'll have you know its only 20 hours and 58 minutes on average :P

Aye but the biggest thing between the two is that one is fun and one is boring.

Sigh, I'll go to Smogon and try get myself some EV Trained pokemon with Good natures and IVs and egg moves (I got like 4 last week)

One last thing, Am I allowed to use Platinum moves? Many of the people on Smogon are offering Bullet Punch Scizors etc.


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Dec 16, 2008    10:13 AM
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RE: Wifi Only Tournament?
Well Its Macle's decision ultimately but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. They are legit pokemom.

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