I am working on this team at the moment
DRIFBLIM @ Leftovers
Charge Beam
Shadow Ball
Baton Pass
Substitute
OCTILLERY @ Mystic Water
Fire Blast
Hyper Beam
Surf
Ice Beam
SPIRITOMB @ BlackGlasses
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse
Shadow Sneak
Psychic
GENGAR @ Spell Tag
Dream Eater
Dark Pulse
Nightmare
Hypnosis
CRADILY @ Shell Bell
Ingrain
Amnesia
Sludge Bomb
Toxic
WEEZING @ Black Sludge
Shock Wave
Explosion
Destiny Bond
Fire Blast
Any pointers for improvement would be greatly appreciated. Please don't just say it sucks, I already know that.
H@zm47 Wrote:DRIFBLIM @ Leftovers
Charge Beam
Shadow Ball
Baton Pass
Substitute
im not really sure how use a drifblim
OCTILLERY @ Mystic Water
Fire Blast
Singnal Beam/Psychic/energy ball/flash cannon
Surf
Ice Beam
Hyper Beam takes a turn to recharge whichh isnt ideal during a battle. I let you have a choice on the othr move
SPIRITOMB @ BlackGlasses
Nasty Plot
Dark Pulse
Shadow Sneak
Psychic
looks good
GENGAR @ Spell Tag
Dream Eater
Shadow Ball
Nightmare
Hypnosis
shadow ball gives it STAB
CRADILY @ Shell Bell
Ingrain
Amnesia
Sludge Bomb
Toxic
im not sure on cradily movest
WEEZING @ Black Sludge
Thunderbolt
Explosion
Destiny Bond
Fire Blast
T-bolt is more powerful than shock wave
correction in bold
well the ev spred for each is needed for a real rate and possibly a reason for each (their main purpose). Post them and then it will be rateable (if rateable's a word lol)
EV spread
Drifblim
HP: 265
Atk: 129
Def: 86
Sp. Atk: 108
Sp. Def: 86
Speed: 128
Cradily
HP: 187
Atk: 115
Def: 143
Sp. Atk: 133
Sp. Def: 122
Speed 77
Gengar
HP: 153
Atk: 94
Def: 81
Sp. Atk: 172
Sp. Def: 96
Speed: 151
Spiritomb
HP: 211
Atk: 151
Def: 195
Sp. Atk: 188
Sp. Def: 190
Speed: 103
Octillery
HP: 300
Atk: 240
Def: 171
Sp. Atk: 275
Sp. Def: 188
Speed: 146
Weezing:
HP: 269
Atk: 207
Def: 252
Sp. Atk: 198
Sp. Def: 155
Speed 155
Natures + Abilities
Drifblim
Impish Nature
Ability: Aftermath
Cradily
Rash Nature
Ability: Suction Cups
Gengar
Bashful Nature
Ability: Levitate
Spiritomb
Modest Nature
Ability: Pressure
Octillery
Quiet Nature
Ability: Suction Cups
Weezing
Hardy Nature
Ability: Levitate
I based Drifblim's moveset around Baton Pass as i could see him using it effectively. I liked the Sp. Atk increase from Charge Beam and Drifblim is able to Baton Pass this to another Pokemon. The same goes for Substitute. Shadow Ball was also good because of the STAB gained
Cradily is a Toxistaller. He will badly poison the opponent and then sit there and gain stats and/or HP (Ingrain + Amnesia). Sludge Bomb was added to finish off an opponent who is weak enough.
Gengar is somewhat more attacking. Classic Hypnosis + Dream Eater / Nightmare to restore HP and hurt the opponent at the same time. His Levitate ability gives him immunity to Ground attacks. Dark Pulse has a high critical hit ratio but could easily be replaced by Shadow Ball / Claw for STAB.
Spiritomb's moveset is one of attacking strength. Nasty Plot gives an impressive Special Attack Boost for his physical moves (Shadow Sneak & Dark Pulse). Psychic was added to down fighting types with ease. His lack of weaknesses and 3 immunities drew me to including him in my party.
Octillery is a physical sweeper with a very diverse moveset. Surf was added for STAB and Ice Beam was added for those nasty Dragon types. Fire Blast was added to counter Grass Types. Hyper Beam was added as a last resort type of move.
Weezing is more of a wall with an average defense. I was drawn to Shock Wave because it always hits the opponent. Fire Blast was added to use most of his attacking strength. Destiny Bond is very useful when he is against the odds (Psychic pokemon) as he takes the foe with him when he faints.
Explosion is a last resort type move that may not faint the opponent but it will do a large amount of damage.
Heres what I think the team should be with your reasons in mind.
Gengar-Modest @ Wise glasses-evs 252sp atk, 252speed, 6hp
Hypnosis
Dream eater
Tbolt
Shadow Ball
Much better and adds electric STAB
Weezing-Impish @Leftovers-evs 25Hp, 252Def, 6sp atk
Tbolt
Flamethrower
Explosion
Pain Split
Pain Split adds durability and help him take out high hp walls ex blissy
Drifblim-timid@leftovers
evs 200speed, 200sp atk, 110hp
Hypnosis
Baton Pass
Sub
Charge Beam
faster and could set up for pass easyer.
on my psp and ran outta space so i had to double
Spiritomb-Careful @leftovers evs 252hp, 144def, 114sp def
Confuse Ray
Pain Split
Sucker Punch
Shadow Sneak
Used as a wall and is a pain to kill
Porygon-Z~Modest @wise glasses- evs 252sp atk, 252speed, 6hp
Ice Beam
Psychic
Tbolt
Tri Attack
better sp sweeper than octillery
Garchomp-Adamant/Jolly @Choice Band/scarf- evs 252atk, 252speed, 6hp
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Fire Fang
A physical sweeper was needed and walls make choice possible
your teem seems to have a weakness against evaisivness. If you came up against a opponent with a strong blissey or other evaisive pokemon you could be in trouble. Of coudrse spiritomb could counter with it's pain split, but consider the fact that it was already unable to battle. Also, most of your attacks are special, if you came p aggainst a team with a high special defence and good protection aggainst electric, dark and fire type moves, you could have a hard time. Also, pokemon with ice and dark/psychic type moves would be quite strong aggainst your team.
I will definitely make an effort to make some changes. Quite a few problems I have obviously overlooked. Thanks for the feedback
fmclodutail Wrote:your teem seems to have a weakness against evaisivness. If you came up against a opponent with a strong blissey or other evaisive pokemon you could be in trouble. Of coudrse spiritomb could counter with it's pain split, but consider the fact that it was already unable to battle. Also, most of your attacks are special, if you came p aggainst a team with a high special defence and good protection aggainst electric, dark and fire type moves, you could have a hard time. Also, pokemon with ice and dark/psychic type moves would be quite strong aggainst your team.
I wouldnt worry to much about evasion, as most people play with an evasion clause which prevents evade up and accuracy down moves. I would however try to strike an even balance among physical and special attacks.
H@zm47 Wrote:I am working on this team at the moment
DRIFBLIM @ Leftovers/Salac Berry - Salac Berry means you can pass down speed along with your charge beam boosts and bulky substitutes, if you don't mind lasting a little less long.
Charge Beam
Shadow Ball
Baton Pass
Substitute
OCTILLERY @ Leftovers - Mystic Water is barely doing anything to help.
Fire Blast
Energy Ball/Thunder Wave - Water/Grass/Fire/Ice Covers pretty much everything in the game, but a little status never hurt.
Surf
Ice Beam
SPIRITOMB @ Leftovers - Spiritomb is a bulky pokémon.
Nasty Plot/Pain Split
Dark Pulse/Sucker Punch
Hidden Power [Fighting]/Will-O-Wisp
Taunt/Destiny Bond
Ugh, Spiritomb's moveset is tiny. If you can get a hold of a Hidden Power user, do it. Otherwise, I'd go for the alternate moveslots.[/b]
GENGAR @ Life Orb/Expert Belt/Choice Scarf/Leftovers
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast/Energy Ball/Destiny Bond
Hypnosis
[i]Sorry, most people don't keep a sleeping Pokémon in, so Hypnosis/Dream eater is redundant. Besides, Psychic is a fairly bad attacking type. Shadow Ball > Dark Pulse simply because it gets a boost for being the same type as Gengar. The rest helps for covering other types and being useful.
CRADILY @ Leftovers - Leftovers will always work better than a Shell Bell.
Ingrain
Amnesia
Recover/Rock Slide/Earthquake - Poison is the worst attacking type. =( Recover helps you take hits much better, and Rock Slide means you can actually hurt things. EQ hits many things Toxic cannot.
Toxic
WEEZING @ Black Sludge
Thunderbolt
Explosion
Destiny Bond
Fire Blast
Any pointers for improvement would be greatly appreciated. Please don't just say it sucks, I already know that.
There, most of those moves are much more useful. Your team could really do with a steel or dark type to resist Ghost/Dark/Ice attacks. Steelix and Empoleon aren't bad ideas.