I just recently got a new party of water types. Any thoughts on how to improve it? Criticisms welcome (unless evil and mean!). Here it is:
Name: Starmie
LVL: 100
Nature: Quiet
HP: 279
Attack: 168
Defence: 196
Sp.Atk: 277
Sp.Def: 204
Speed: 241
Ability: Illuminate
Item: None
Moves: Thunderbolt
Brine
Psychic
Grass Knot
Name: Kingdra
LVL: 100
Nature: Modest
HP: 292
Attack: 178
Defence: 210
Sp.Atk: 317
Sp.Def: 225
Speed: 269
Ability: Sniper
Item: Draco Plate
Moves: Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Ice Beam
Surf
Name: Octillery
LVL: 100
Nature: Impish
HP: 299
Attack: 235
Defence: 228
Sp.Atk: 243
Sp.Def: 202
Speed: 110
Ability: Sniper
Item: None
Moves: Flamethrower
Energy Ball
Brine
Ice Beam
Name: Crawdaunt
LVL: 100
Nature: Hardy
HP: 263
Attack: 295
Defence: 179
Sp.Atk: 230
Sp.Def: 123
Speed: 144
Ability: Shell Armour
Item: None
Moves: Substitute
Crunch
Crabhammer
Aerial Ace
Name: Gyarados
LVL: 100
Nature: Adamant
HP: 329
Attack: 328
Defence: 188
Sp.Atk: 235
Sp.Def: 223
Speed: 212
Ability: Intimidate
Item: None
Moves: Toxic
Earthquake
Aqua tail
Waterfall
Name: Milotic
LVL: 100
Nature: Mild
HP: 348
Attack: 143
Defence: 162
Sp.Atk: 283
Sp.Def: 266
Speed: 208
Ability: Marvel Scale
Item: Mystic Water
Moves: Surf
Iron Tail
Ice Beam
Toxic
Also, if anyone talks about items, then can you tell me were to get it. Problem from the past.
:punk:THANKS IN ADVANCE!
Oh I love specialized teams! And it looks pretty well rounded.
Kingdra might benefit more from Swiftswim + Rain Dance. You could replace one of the dragon type attacks to make room for rain Dance, you don't really need two anyway (dragon attacks are only good if you fight a dragon or if they resist your other attack types). Also, your intire team would benefit from Rain Dance!
As for Octillery, I actually like him alot. I don't have any improvements for him at the moment though. I do, however, have a suggestion. If you went with the ability: Suction Cups rather than Sniper (which kinda needs high crit attacks or Focus Energy or both) he'd be impossible to phaze which is a typical counter to Baton Pass (leaving only genuine Haze, which is rare in my experience).
You don't have a Baton Passer? Well, Vaporeon could Baton Pass Aqua Ring, Acid Armor, Substitute and even (I think, not intirely sure on this one) Attract if Vaporeon and Octillery were of the same gender!
I'm not saying Octillery needs a Baton Passer, or even that your team would be better off if you bumped one pokemon off your team to allow a Baton Passer to support Octillery, it's just a different and fun tactic. It's a matter of preference naturally.
Lastly, including Gyarados is very risky, he has a 4x weakness to lightning, a type which you'll have a hard time dealing with. I would probably inclide Swampert instead since it'd function as a bit of a wall, a way to deal with lightning and of someone brings in a grass pokemon to knock it out in one hit, you could manage it with Kingdra's Icebeam or (possibly) Octillery's Flamethrower.
Don't think I have any more comments at the momment.. I hope you have a great time with your team!
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For Gyarados, I'd suggest this move set:
Waterfall
Ice fang
Eq
Ddance
This way it could handle grass types, and electric types.
Also If you can get a couple of D-dances in, it will be a major threat to your opponant.
Hmmm, nothing much new to say after Monica, except that a lot of your natures need fixing. Swampert is a must, as is Rain Dance somewhere. If I were you, I would go with a BulkyGyara lead. Try:
Gyarados @ Leftovers
Dragon Dance
Earthquake/Return
Ice Fang/Waterfall
Taunt/Stone Edge
Taunt is really useful, but more attacking might appeal more to you.
Vaporeon is a solid choice. You can try using wish and protect, to do some awesome stalling, while toxicing their pokes. Or you can, as Monica suggested, use baton pass. Vaporeon can pass some awesome subs, which are unbreakable after one seismic toss, or you can pass wish for a "safe" switch in, or you can pass acid armour or something :s
On Starmie, get rid of Brine for Surf or Recover (Or Rapid Spin) and take iron tail out on Milotic, you preferably want recover, but you can give it rest and sleep talk, which also activates Marvel Scale, which lets him take physical hits easier.
Ok. I have changed my team around abit. I am working on a vaporeon, and where do you get life orb? Here is the new Team Tidal Fury:
Name: Starmie
LVL: 100
Nature: Quiet
HP: 279
Attack: 168
Defence: 196
Sp.Atk: 277
Sp.Def: 204
Speed: 241
Ability: Illuminate
Item: None
Moves:
Thunderbolt
Surf
Psychic
Grass Knot
Name: Kingdra
LVL: 100
Nature: Modest
HP: 292
Attack: 178
Defence: 210
Sp.Atk: 317
Sp.Def: 225
Speed: 269
Ability: Sniper
Item: Draco Plate
Moves:
Draco Meteor
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Surf
Name: Octillery
LVL: 100
Nature: Impish
HP: 299
Attack: 235
Defence: 228
Sp.Atk: 243
Sp.Def: 202
Speed: 110
Ability: Sniper
Item: None
Moves:
Flamethrower
Energy Ball
Brine
Ice Beam
Name: Crawdaunt
LVL: 100
Nature: Hardy
HP: 263
Attack: 295
Defence: 179
Sp.Atk: 230
Sp.Def: 123
Speed: 144
Ability: Shell Armour
Item: None
Moves:
Substitute
Crunch
Crabhammer
Aerial Ace
Name: Gyarados
LVL: 100
Nature: Adamant
HP: 329
Attack: 328
Defence: 188
Sp.Atk: 235
Sp.Def: 223
Speed: 212
Ability: Intimidate
Item: None
Moves:
Toxic
Earthquake
Taunt
Waterfall
Name: Milotic
LVL: 100
Nature: Mild
HP: 348
Attack: 143
Defence: 162
Sp.Atk: 283
Sp.Def: 266
Speed: 208
Ability: Marvel Scale
Item: Mystic Water
Moves:
Surf
Rest
Ice Beam
Sleep Talk
Again, please help me out. Also, what would be a good move set for a Vaporeon? I'm thinking:
Raindance
Surf
Attract
Baton Pass
If Vaporeon is a girl, Attract would be alright. From my experience, most of the pokemon I battled with are male. If it was female, attract could work better. If not, raising Vaporeon's defense with Acid Armor will raise it's durability against physical electric type moves. Since you already have Rain Dance on Kindgra you might want to replace Rain Dance with a status inducing move like Yawn or Toxic. Generally tanks, walls, defenders, and supporters do a better job with inducing a status move since they have the capability to last.
Have Milotic hold Leftovers, this way it can last longer. If you prefer a water boosted item, I believe the Splash Plate powers water type moves stronger (Splash Plate = 1.2x, Mystic Water = 1.1x)
Gyarados should have Ice Fang instead of Toxic to get rid of those Dragon pokemon especially Dragonites that know Thunder which will receive 100% accuracy because of the rain. This could really hurt. You might want to add a Gastrodon or a Swampert to take a Thunder attack. He should be holding the Life Orb when you get it
I would suggest having Octillery or Starmie holding Choice Specs since all it's attacks are special attacks.
Ludicolo would make a good addition to your Rain Dance team since it heals itself in the rain and takes normal damage from Grass attacks.
You get the Life Orb somewhere inside Stark Mountain. I don't remember exactly where in Stark Mountain. Bring lots of repels.
I hope this helps. If u still have questions, pm me back
Cheers. Ok, i have once again updated my party, so here is the newest Team Tidal Fury:
Name: Starmie
LVL: 100
Nature: Quiet
HP: 279
Attack: 168
Defence: 196
Sp.Atk: 277
Sp.Def: 204
Speed: 241
Ability: Illuminate
Item: None
Moves:
Thunderbolt
Surf
Psychic
Grass Knot
Name: Kingdra
LVL: 100
Nature: Modest
HP: 292
Attack: 178
Defence: 210
Sp.Atk: 317
Sp.Def: 225
Speed: 269
Ability: Sniper
Item: Draco Plate
Moves:
Draco Meteor
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Surf
Name: Octillery
LVL: 100
Nature: Impish
HP: 299
Attack: 235
Defence: 228
Sp.Atk: 243
Sp.Def: 202
Speed: 110
Ability: Sniper
Item: None
Moves:
Flamethrower
Energy Ball
Brine
Ice Beam
Name: Vaporeon
LVL: 100
Nature: Jolly
HP: 417
Attack: 160
Defence: 151
Sp.Atk: 225
Sp.Def: 204
Speed: 207
Ability: Water Absorb
Item: None
Moves: Toxic
Attract
Rain Dance
Hydro Pump
Name: Gyarados
LVL: 100
Nature: Adamant
HP: 329
Attack: 328
Defence: 188
Sp.Atk: 235
Sp.Def: 223
Speed: 212
Ability: Intimidate
Item: None
Moves:
Toxic
Earthquake
Taunt
Waterfall
Name: Milotic
LVL: 100
Nature: Mild
HP: 348
Attack: 143
Defence: 162
Sp.Atk: 283
Sp.Def: 266
Speed: 208
Ability: Marvel Scale
Item: Mystic Water
Moves:
Surf
Rest
Ice Beam
Sleep Talk
Anyone got an item that can help my team out. Ill trade you an item for it (like trading pokemon but trading items).
i think u should change starmies ability from illuminate to natural cure since natural cure is more useful in battle....
ok. there is 1 item i need, HEARTSCALE! Anyone got one?
